[BD] Spirit of the Game(a plan)

[Adam Harras]

Everyone has used the trollies at the supermarket where you have to  
put  a pound in to get a trolley. If you want your pound back you  
take the trolley back to the other trollies and voilla!
To play ultimate you have to have a game disk(and a spare), what  
about having two official game disks(per pitch) as the responsibility  
of each team(one per team(if you don't bring a disk you cant play and  
thus forfeit the game)), these disks are picked up from HQ by each  
team(signed for!)at the beginning of the game and returned to HQ  
after each game one disk being the responsibility of each team.

Benefits(mainly for the organisers)

1. you have to have both disks to start the game as you can only do  
the toss with official disks.
2. you have a spare if, you hoof, spike or spoon one.
3 when you sign it back in you put in your score, spirit vote.
4. if you don't bring it back you'll be in trouble and we'll know who  
you and your team are.
5. its another perfect job any team JTM can do.


Cons

1. The JTM wont like it.



hope your all enjoying you great summer

Adam (down under)


On 22 Aug 2007, at 01:12, Russell Parr wrote:

> The BULA system as used at tournaments like Beachfest is a ten  
> point system
> that clearly defines the score and removes the issues of it being  
> the team's
> judgment. However, the issue at hand is more one of getting people  
> to report
> spirit, not how they come up with the score itself - by definition  
> spirit is
> always going to be a matter of judgment. I'm of the opinion that if  
> you
> start giving six / ten / whatever point frameworks on which to  
> score teams,
> you'll only make it more arduous for teams and therefore discourage  
> regular
> reporting of scores.
>
> Reporting of spirit is the job of the team captain, be it at the  
> end of each
> game or (more practically) the end of each day of competition. It's  
> not a
> particularly challenging thing to do and any team captain who  
> doesn't either
> report the spirit score or ask a team member to do it is simply  
> being lazy -
> no excuse. TDs are making admirable steps to make it easier but  
> ultimately I
> don't see why people can't just get off their arse to do something  
> that they
> know full well is an integral part of playing a tournament.
>
> Pablo
> -- 3 --
> Flaming Galahs
>
> P.S. Personal views and not those of my team, natch.
>
>
> On 8/21/07, Dan Knapp <knapp_dan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I really like the system Kevin mentions. There are two main systems,
>> picking
>> three teams and awarding them 1st, 2nd and 3rd places, or judging  
>> each
>> team
>> you've played out of 10.
>>
>> The first system is weak because you're judging a team against the  
>> others
>> you've played, not against a clear cut idea of what spirit is. It's
>> entirely
>> subjective. One team can get a good score for playing acceptably,  
>> as long
>> as
>> the other teams you played were unspirited. It also doesn't  
>> account for
>> how
>> much more spirited one team compared to another.
>>
>> The second system (1 to 10 points per team) is also slightly weak  
>> because
>> not all the teams will judge spirit in the same way. Some teams  
>> will much
>> more "party" in their spirit allocation and will give points to  
>> teams who
>> were the most fun. I've been a member of teams and watched us give  
>> one
>> team
>> a good spirit vote because they wore fancy dress and threw stupid  
>> throws.
>>
>> The strengths of the system Kevin promotes is that it (1) clearly  
>> defines
>> how the scoring should be judged, (2) every match gets a score,  
>> (3) it's
>> simple and (4) it clearly explains what we mean by "spirit".
>>
>> I think we've got pretty good spirit in the UK, but surely we can  
>> do even
>> more to raise awareness of what competitive spirit looks like? Why  
>> not
>> distribute a piece of paper with that scoring system and an  
>> explanation of
>> SOTG with every captains pack? Make it compulsory in every UKUA  
>> event, get
>> people used to doing it the same way every time. The same people  
>> tend to
>> run
>> most of the tournaments, wouldn't it be really easy to introduce one
>> scoring
>> system across the board in a year or two?
>>
>> I think any system that clarifies spirit voting is a good thing.  
>> And sure,
>> you can knock points off teams which don't submit spirit votes  
>> themselves.
>> Or don't consider a game to be accurately recorded until both  
>> teams have
>> sent in the scores and their SOTG votes. Teams that fail to  
>> accurately
>> record games face point deductions in the tour...
>>
>> I'm sure the consensus is there, we just need someone in a  
>> position of
>> authority to tell us to do it!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan Knapp
>> #6 KO!
>>
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