[BD] Faulty disc rules
IndoorsDOC
indoorsdoc at ukultimate.com
Tue Aug 14 16:35:30 BST 2007
You definitely can stall when they pick it up wet, unless the teams have
agreed differently.
I'm not so sure about if it's taco'd though - I know a turnover's not a
real stoppage, but the D can't possibly be disadvantaged by the O
putting it into play more slowly; the O can approach the disc at walking
pace anyway if they want to. The D would usually prefer that the O gets
going slowly, rather than taking the quick pass.
And if the team becoming O inherits a disc that has been taco'd by the
opposition, then they are getting an unfair disadvantage, and I don't
see why they shouldn't be allowed to sort it out. Doing so can't hurt
the D in any way, except by removing that unfair disadvantage, and the D
gains time to set up. The team becoming O could then choose which
disadvantage they preferred - letting the D set, or playing with a
buggered disc.
This applies both if we have a who-broke-it rule, AND with the current
rules - if we're not allowed to fix the disc on a turnover then it
doesn't seem fair to me.
Personally, if I bent a disc while dropping it, I'd always let the
opposition change it if they wanted. They shouldn't be penalised for my
mistake.
B
Andy Taylor wrote:
> Wee wee Dave (I love your DOND nickname, assuming I've got the right
> person) and BD
>
> What gets me about this is what a stoppage is.
>
> Dave's words:
>
>> "Any player may briefly extend a stoppage of play to correct
>> faulty equipment (e.g. to tie >shoelaces or straighten a disc), but
>> active play may not be stopped for this purpose"
>
>> Essentially this is important because it means that a disc can only
>> be fixed if the disc is not >currently checked in, and play cant be
>> stopped to fix it (as happens quite a lot). That means on >your way
>> to pick up the disc you can ask permission to straighten the disc,
>
> A stoppage is, as Dave rightly says, a time when the disc is not
> currently checked in. Dave then goes on to say that on your way to
> pick up the disc you can ask permission to straighten the disc. A
> turnover (which is when I assume Dave is talking about walking to the
> disc) is not a stoppage, and no check is required to restart play.
> Therefore you do not have the right to wipe the disc dry before
> putting the disc into play after a turnover, only when a call has been
> made.
>
> Of course if there is mutual agreement between teams not to stall
> after a turnover until the disc has been dried, then I guess you could
> allow it, but if you get to that situation and you decide you don't
> want to dry the disc, but make a quick pass as a player is free, then
> the defence won't be ready for it, and would feel hard done by,
> although it was technically within the rules.
>
> That make sense? Basically, as far as I can see it, you can stall
> someone straight after a turnover, and if they want to dry it they do
> it on their own time.
>
> Tails
> Ltd Release
>
> PS Not the views of my team at all.
>
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