[BD] Tour 0

Paul Hurt paulhurt at phmm.com
Tue Apr 3 15:22:45 BST 2007


Off the top of my head...

Would it help if a foreign team showing up for just one event picked  
up no Tour points, and everyone that finishes below them moves up a  
place in the finishing positions (and gets the appropriate number of  
points)? Including the B tour winner.

Foreign teams are still allowed to take home any trophies they might  
win. But I'm sure they wouldn't be coming over to see how high they  
can finish in the end of year Tour rankings, so why award them any  
points? (Unless they want to commit to all the Tours... e.g. Murphy).

Seems to me that the introduction of a strong European team at a tour  
event might help shake up the seeding in the top 12, and could  
alleviate the problem of always facing the same teams. Playing  
against the same opposition at every event only teaches you how to  
beat (or lose to) the same teams over and over. Whereas playing  
against a relatively unknown quantity will keep you more on your toes  
- learning to figure out what the opposition is doing, who their key  
players are, etc, and figuring it out quick. More representative of  
the situation at EUCC, WUCC, etc.

Perhaps if the Tour was promoted more heavily to some of the top Euro  
teams we could get them over more regularly. If there was always one  
Euro team at every Tour (a different one each time), wouldn't a lot  
of the issues become moot?

Someone will always be on that cusp of up/down between A and B tour.  
Having an extra top-twelve team simply changes who it happens to.

Not saying I'm right or wrong. Just trying to add food for thought.

Paul






On 3 Apr 2007, at 14:29, Chris Rowlands wrote:

> As someone who plays regularly on the boundary between Tour A and B  
> (we were up and down like a yoyo last year) my feeling is that it's  
> not so much of a problem that teams from other countries play in  
> Tour, it's that they get preferrential treatment and only turn up  
> for one event. Paddy / Seamus Murphy are a classic example of the  
> right way to approach the problem; Paddy earn their place at the  
> top end of A tour fair and square, same as everyone else: they go  
> through seeding and they turn up to all the tours and nobody can  
> really complain that they were cheated out of their promotion  
> space / unfairly demoted because of it.
>
> In contrast, because of the way the points are worked out at tour,  
> relegation / demotion really is a big deal; A tour teams not only  
> get more points, but have the opportunity to play against top-level  
> teams and really improve their game, not to mention attracting  
> stronger players with more experience. Having an extra team show up  
> for one tour, affect the seedings / schedule and then not turn up  
> to the remaining tour events is often a kick in the teeth for both  
> the team that lost out on that 16th place position and the ones who  
> lose out on valuable tour points because they faced a foreign uber- 
> team early on in the tournament.
>
> I appreciate that there are UK teams that sometimes can't make all  
> the tour events; we're an amateur sport and sometimes you just  
> can't get the numbers, but to have no intention of going through  
> the seeding process or turning up to the other tour events is a  
> whole different matter. If teams just want to play one event, I'm  
> sure there are better alternatives.
>
> Magic
> Strange Blue #20
> As usual this is not necessarily the view of my team, but it damn  
> well should be.
>
>
>
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