[BD] Re: Tour 0

Tue Apr 3 13:32:38 BST 2007

I don't think Paddy Murphy should be dragged into this discussion.

The Tour is a series of events which are run on the assumption that the teams entering
each event will be consistent. Paddy Murphy may be a foreign team, but they are always
committed to the whole of the Tour, and because of this I don't see any problems with
them being allowed to enter.

The issue here is with foreign teams playing a single tour event, when the Tour is
clearly not designed for that. If a UK team wants to enter half way through the Tour,
they have to start at the bottom of the B Tour. Why should the rules be any different
for a foreign team? What's to stop a UK based team saying they are foreign to be able to
enter a single event in the A Tour?

The idea of allowing one foreign team into each event is an interesting one, but how
would you choose that foreign team, what would happen if there was an event with no
foreign team, and how would you seed the foreign team, considering that the level of
that team would be different from one event to the next?

Matt

> Just as a thought,
> How many spots are to be allocated to foreign teams then?
> If Paddy are taking one and the Big EZ another then we only have 14 British
> teams in the A Tour.
> Oscar
>
> On 03/04/07, Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber at arup.com> wrote:
>>
>> As an aside, no-one seems to moan about Paddy Murphy (and his brother
>> Seamus) joining the UK tour each year, when they are a foreign team
>> taking up a good old British spot in the A-tour? (stealing our jobs and
>> women, etc)
>>
>> I guess the key thing that someone already mentioned is that it is
>> always good to know beforehand what the situation is. Paddy come along
>> every year, so I guess they are an established part of the furniture.
>> Having said all that, if everyone saw on Saturday morning at the latest
>> that the schedule stated that 11-12 was a qualification play-off, then
>> they all knew the score and knew what they had to do if they found
>> themselves in that match. I can't believe that anyone's off season
>> training was precisely tailored to achieving exactly 12th place at Tour
>> 0?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> (PS: Please note that I have anything against Paddy; I enjoyed playing
>> against them much more than loads of the other teams I have played
>> against)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: britdisc-bounces at ranulf.net [mailto:britdisc-bounces at ranulf.net]
>> On Behalf Of IndoorsDOC
>> Sent: 03 April 2007 11:32
>> To: britdisc at ranulf.net
>> Subject: Re: [BD] Re: Tour 0
>>
>> The thing to note about all this foreign team discussion is that the
>> rule has been in force for 3 or 4 years now - there is provision in the
>> official tour rules for visiting foreign teams to be seeded up near the
>> top as is seen fit. There's no point arguing about it, it's in black and
>> white.
>>
>> On the other hand, if we wanted to change this rule for next season,
>> that might be a more fruitful discussion. As mentioned by someone
>> already, with the advent of EUCS and such, there mightn't be any need
>> for foreign teams to come over and give our top teams more
>> competition/experience/variety.
>>
>> Do people think that foreign teams should continue to be allowed entry
>> to tour? Or has the rule outlived it's applicability? Or do folk like
>> the 1-per-tour idea?
>>
>> Benji
>>
>>
>> At 10:31 03/04/2007, you wrote:
>> >I think Rob makes some good points and I would support his suggestion.
>> >
>> >However the point I'd like to make is that whatever we choose, it
>> >should be consistent and decisions like this should be more
>> transparent.
>> >
>> >The first I saw that only 11 teams would qualify from Tour Zero was
>> >when inspecting the schedule; the 11th vs. 12th game was described as a
>>
>> >'qualifier playoff' (or some such similar).
>> >
>> >Perhaps there would be less resentment / backlash at such proposals if
>> >people were made completely clear of the situation before the event.
>> >The Nationals / EUCS Qualifier debate would be another example.
>> >
>> >D.
>> >
>> >
>> >On 03/04/07, Oscar <david.oxendale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>I'm confused.
>> >>
>> >>On 03/04/07, Robert Alpen <ralpen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > I'm not proposing being swamped by European team, just one
>> team/tour.
>> >
>> >
>> >> > --- Chris <chris.wilkinson at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor at virgin.net>
>> >> > > To: <li51jp at surrey.ac.uk>
>> >> > > Cc: <britdisc at ranulf.net>
>> >> > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 2:52 PM
>> >> > > Subject: [BD] Re: Tour 0
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "There is an Austrian team The BigEz looking to enter the first A
>>
>> >> > > tour.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Well whoot de doot!
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