[BD] RE: Tour 2

Tue Aug 1 09:37:25 BST 2006

Felix has made a valid point, but he has forgot to mention that there were a 
couple of globs of white marks on the pitch lines that entered the regular 
playing area of the pitches by as much as half an inch!  I was involved in 
several disputes about being out-of-bounds when someone stepped on these 
bits of 'line'.

Also, putting on breakfast for the everyone was all well and good - but I 
for one do not like the pips in my tomoatos (I am sure I am not alone) - why 
can't someone arrange for half of the tomato pips to be taken out??!!

Oh, and another thing.  There was a bit of rain on saturday night when most 
people were still at the party.  Please can it be better organised so that 
any rain falls between 2am and 7am - when the majority of people have 
retired to their tents.

People are of course entitled to voice their opinions, but I also am amazed 
at the amount of criticism going around about Eastbourne - which is without 
question the best tournament venue for facilities and the most 
professionally run event.  The only point that appears like it might warrant 
looking into is the lack of toilet facilities on friday.

On-site camping - decent showers - informative tannoy announcements - 
breakfast - on-site party - good water replacements (even with the breakdown 
of the vehicle).  Well done Nolan et al for once again showing how a 
tournament can and should be run.

Alex
The Prince Of Leisure
EMO #34

>From: Felix <felix37 at gmail.com>
>To: Britdisc <britdisc at near.me.uk>
>Subject: Re: [BD] RE: Tour 2
>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:05 +0100
>
>The long bits of grass caused a few short debates during the weekend,
>can an organising committee volunteer please crawl around the 20
>pitches with a pair of nail scissors on the Saturday morning before
>games start in future please.
>
>Thanks Nolan and co for a near perfectly run, massive tournament at an
>excellent venue with great facilities and awesome people.  I cannot
>believe how ready everybody is to publicly criticise the slightest
>thing they feel was wrong about any huge tournament these days.
>
>Congratulations to Clapham for pulling it out in sudden death against
>Brighton on Saturday and then going on to win.
>
>Felix
>
>ps. publicly bigging your own team up unneccesarily is fine though of
>course, lets see more of that
>
>
>On 31/07/06, Simon Statham <stathamsimon at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>It's not just because you weren't good enough then?
>>
>>  You weren't 'stitched up'.  If you had been good enough to get into the 
>>top 8 then you would have beaten at least one of these teams, I didn't see 
>>either of them cruise through all the other teams there.  I don't think 
>>(correct me if I'm wrong) that either of them even got to the final - so 
>>you weren't good enough, get over it.
>>
>>  Go back, practice harder, get better and then you'll be fine...
>>
>>Dan Berry <DBerry at information-age.com> wrote:
>>  Can we not have a really really talented bunch of Ultimate Wizards from
>>Switzerland in our group next time as well please?
>>
>>I'm talking about the B tour.
>>
>>Having worked really hard to prepare for this tour, the Lucky Huckers
>>got a bit stitched up (again) by finding themselves in a group with
>>Seamus Murphy (8th seeds) and Wizards (23rd seed). A veritable group of
>>death. Wizards were clearly a bit useful and it soon transpired that
>>ourselves and Murphy would have to battle it out for 2nd spot and the
>>chance for a crossover into the top 8.
>>
>>Murphy themselves mentioned after our game that it seemed a bit unfair
>>that one team would end up missing out because a team clearly not ranked
>>correctly attended as a guest team. They were just slotted in at 23rd
>>when they were an experienced and capable outfit and so the seedings
>>were laughable. It meant one team would always get shafted. Not
>>particularly through a team improving lots since the last tout but just
>>from obvious bad planning.
>>
>>I imagine this is a difficult problem to overcome if a team only enters
>>one tour a year etc but did Wizards attend because this tour was coupled
>>with Brit Open? I'm new to all this so I don't understand how it works
>>but why invite international teams to a tour event that (I thought) was
>>designed to rank GB (and Ireland) teams before nationals. Correct me if
>>I'm wrong. I don't really know. Why not then invite international teams
>>to a separate event to play the best of British (and Irish!) after? Why
>>invite them in the middle?
>>
>>Just seems stupid to me. Wizards were really cool to play against and
>>it's great to get international teams involved but is this the right
>>place to do it? You stitch up any team that gets them in their group.
>>Our weekend was over by Saturday evening really. Ok, so we're only B
>>tour, who cares etc etc but we still went with aims of working our way
>>towards A tour. Yeah we enjoyed the party and our games on Sunday, they
>>were great, but when you set yourselves a goal and it gets taken away
>>from you in this way it kind of takes the motivation out of everyone. So
>>we just got absolutely bulldozered at the party and wondered who picked
>>techno/gabba as party music. ;)
>>
>>Apart from that it was cool. Special mention to Scnell Ja (sp?) who
>>stuck it to us hard Sunday morning. Fair play.
>>
>>See you all at Cardiff.
>>
>>Berry78.
>>
>>Lucky Huckers.
>>
>>(My views only but the rest of the team can't read so they will never
>>know if I said something wrong anyway.)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: britdisc-bounces at ranulf.net [mailto:britdisc-bounces at ranulf.net]
>>On Behalf Of McLoughlin, Matthew J
>>Sent: 31 July 2006 14:32
>>To: britdisc at ranulf.net
>>Subject: [BD] RE: Tour 2
>>
>>Dear Tour 2 organisers
>>
>>Apologies if I am being dumb but would it be possible for you to explain
>>why
>>no facilities for people camping on the Friday night were provided?
>>After
>>walking around the site about 11pm to find a toilet block with others we
>>had
>>to resort to walking to a local pub which was not be ideal for single
>>females to be doing late night on there own - which they were forced to
>>do.
>>I did check with others at the site in case I had missed them however
>>they
>>didn't know where they were either!
>>
>>Also there was the small issue of dog foul on our first pitch on the
>>Saturday. It was the second game on the pitch so obviously the first
>>game
>>somehow managed to avoid it however I would of hoped each pitch would of
>>been checked and cleared by the organising committee - especially as it
>>is
>>specifically mentioned in the UKU pdf on "How to Run a UKU Tour v5".
>>
>>I've never seen this problem before at a tour and was disappointed to
>>see it
>>at this one.
>>
>>I appreciate the work that goes into running tours and commend every
>>single
>>person involved in running them and dedicating their time to allow these
>>events to go ahead however I feel these two are quite basic issues which
>>should and could be easily avoided.
>>
>>Matt
>>
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